Ep.3: Dog Culture in Serbia

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Yes, but you're not going to share it on 8th March.

I know, but we're filming on the International Women's Day, so there you go.

We both made coffee, so this is a success because this is Možekafa podcast.

So, you know, it's appropriate, I think, of us.

Rarely. so it's off in germany it's not off in serbia actually no it's

it's off in berlin only for

some reason oh yeah so i thought because before berlin i was not well

before berlin i was not in

berlin right but i was in one town near hanover and um in day

over there it was just like a normal

working day and then someone told me oh you're not working it's like a

holiday and this is amazing finally women are being celebrated no but um I

think the reason for that is because um Berlin

like is because it's like like more of like an Easter Germany so it's

not really religious and

because of that they have fewer holidays and for that they just said okay

let me just like let us

just pick one and then it ended up being Wednesday that's great yeah good

for us good for our podcast

Yeah, and I got some flowers from my flatmate so that's really

nice i saw yes i did tulips i love flowers how do we say

tulips in serbian do you know lala lala or actually plural is lale lale

in jorkish it's singular lale by the way yeah do you know that lala

or tulip was is was is whatever my kind of like symbol for my

channel my my blue

that's true that's true it's in the middle so you your favorite flower is

tulip lala well actually

because we call people from my area from uh bana so yeah i just

thought it's appropriate and and

and they're beautiful of course i don't really have a like a favorite flower

but that really tells a lot about my story so i just thought why

not then my icon will be a sock yes it should be

right okay we're not talking about flowers or the

the 8th of march um we're talking about dogs

yeah a follower of ours very dear followers and supporter um gave us this

idea can we tell his her name uh i don't know okay i didn't

write it down but i will write it in the comments so okay

he came here and he's so like so many dogs around everybody has a

dog walking dogs dog parks in the

parks and stuff so he said let's talk about this what is this uh

love for dogs in serbia and i said actually i was thinking of the

same thing so let's talk about it i do have a have to preface

this with I haven't been living in Serbia for eight or nine years now

and I think

there's a lot that's changed.

And I think this will be visible in this episode.

So whatever I'm going to be talking about is my experience from like 10

years ago.

And Maki, because she's been living in Serbia for the last four years.

No, no, two. How much?

Two? Okay. How did I think three years, something?

Two years. I think she has like a fresh outlook, right?

right or like a fresh mind and everything and super observant mind wherever i

go i'm like what

are they doing how is this region in serbia how is that region in

serbia so yeah yeah dog do you

know how you say it in serbia i know one thing about like whenever

uh i ask the plural form

everybody gives the example of dog like dog oh because when you pluralize dog

it's normally psa pass you see i am confused pass so singular is pass

okay pass there is psa there is psi

oh yeah that is quite difficult so the plural nominative is uh psi

yeah so maybe like i don't think of it like the the the greek

psi like the psi like i don't know so pass see that's nominative but

yeah it gets complicated because it's like uh after five

it becomes like after five like two psi oh yeah yeah well

yeah i would say plural will be psi but

then yeah oh my

god oh i have to revive yeah yeah yeah That's complicated even for you,

imagine me.

And I'm like, plural form,

form so easy

peasy in english i mean that's that is i don't know why we do

that but this is not the only noun

we do this with yeah anyway this would be a good topic for um

like some other episode and also to

revise my knowledge because i'm confused okay tell me like uh more most common

dog names here answered yeah max max i heard max i think before

yeah a lot of the x runs like max uh rex i think

like these are like that means like uh what does it mean like rex

is that god or something in some

language i don't know it has this meaning i wrote down some things so

it was like a very short names like Ricky, Rocky, you know, these kind

of things. But then we also have, I wrote down four males.

So we also have like our nicknames, like Mickey.

That's like a...

Maki.

Or Maki, okay, it could be Maki, I guess.

Zuccia is one that I've met so many dogs called Zuccia

because Zuto is yellow and Zuccia is a nickname.

Even, yeah, even my dad, yeah, exactly.

my dad's nickname is rucha as well and we had a dog called rucha

so that was quite funny um cats called rucha too yeah exactly so now

they have all like lucky for example i forgot about

that one lucky was one of them as well can bella be a name

yeah so for female ones bella for like cat dog donna donna

was a very very frequent female name for a dog lily as well

uh maza because uh lunia imaza it's like a lady in the tramp that's

how we translate it this disney maza is like maza basically means cuddly like

someone who's cuddly

right so maza luna as well like the moon i

wrote down 50 sorry i just said it in such a weird way

it's fifi and the reason why i wrote it is because there is this

one famous famous song poem called fifi have you have you had a chance

to check it out not sure maybe i did but i don't remember

okay so i'm not gonna read it but i think we should link it

to other people so guys search

for fifi dragan lukic that's the the writer exactly so no

it's not a song it's a poem a poem

sorry no no i think it's not a song you can also find it

on youtube someone reading it out loud and and I think it talks about

this like tiny dog that is like I think it's a poodle Fifi poodle

and she's all dressed up and has like nail polish and whatnot and this

old lady

is just talking to Fifi don't do this don't do that don't do this

and this and so you you basically

think that Fifi has a great life because she's tended she like she looks

beautiful but actually like she's a her her owner is this annoying old lady

and that's the life of fiffy so yeah

you should you should check it out yeah poor fiffy but yeah that was

one of them so here really i

mean majority of people have pets pet dogs i mean they have dog friends

at home more than one in many cases or more than one yeah yeah

so in kurushawatts many houses have their own garden and in each garden there's

a tidy tidy dog or big ones but mostly they are small dogs but

you know that wasn't the case before before it was actually like great to

have a big dog right because i think the purpose of dogs was well

first of all yeah exactly so really to protect and i'm you know now

i'm thinking i

have this tiny dog at home she is she's quite feisty her name is

milita milita um that's not

a common name milita is a name for a woman exactly so for a

human but it would just for some reason

because oh meat meat is like endearing way how to say it yeah nickname

um but yeah it's protection it is really protection because someone's gonna even if

they don't attack they will bark and they

will let you know that someone is approaching because it's a different type of

bark so it's

either that or even before that there people just you know deal with people

not deal with but like

their life was agriculture right and um kettles right yeah so they had a

lot of they just needed

someone to gather their take care of their cattle chickens or whatever yeah the

goods as well they keep their for example coal or you know wood everything

in the garden so which could be stolen

I mean but I think the small dogs are better at protecting or informing

because they're

not scared then yeah but they can't be scared but they won't stop shouting

they don't but that's the

thing they always shout so you don't really know if it's like just the

normal thing or or a human yeah I don't know exactly so my dog

just yells at everything and i don't i don't walk

with her anymore like i don't walk my dog anymore because it's a her

for me because it's a sheep

so because she just yells at everything i can i mean they yells barks

at everything and she's like

we just walk and it's like other dogs because every house has a dog

right so it's like and

then everyone is barking around us then the bike passes by then she's barking

then the passenger like whatever or like some car then she's barking and it's

just annoying and she's

always barking my mom goes to the store she's barking like she's sad and

but anyway uh i think

it was like for us before walking the dog wasn't really such a thing

because you oh everyone has a

big backyard and you if you have an apartment then you don't have a

big dog you know and actually you don't have a dog but now i

think it's changing i think even in department you you do have a dog

because you can buy a tiny one too the other day i went to

a hairdresser and there were three dogs inside i mean not waiting in line

but three women came with their three dogs in the same place and

it was like that wouldn't have happened before that wouldn't it just now it's

just becoming a

thing but i wrote down today also small dogs not only are they small

they don't take so much space but also it's less food that you have

to pay for yeah that's true more economic and less

distance they need i mean they don't need to walk hours but bigger dogs

need bigger place to run

yeah a bit bigger yeah but still you need to bigger dog small dog

you need to walk them

at least like once or twice a day yeah as we're walking as our

follower also guessed i mean observed, the leash thing.

Normally, you would never leave the leash, right?

But here, the dogs are trained well I guess

they don't have the leash they just have the collar here but not the

leash itself so they just

walk next to their human friends and some of them are big and when

I go for a run I feel like what

if this dog thinks that I'm running for a different purpose you know but

yeah never such a bad thing happens like they all look at me peacefully

they're used to running people as i guess anyway

i'm always like having this doubt in my mind if this dog is gonna

run after me or not because i

think we still don't have it like you don't have to train your dog

right so still not like a legal

requirement as far as i know um yeah so i wouldn't be so calm

but usually so dogs are if you don't look at them I think you're

usually you're fine I mean not always because they can be

aggressive dogs but dogs hate being looked in the eyes so I just try

to ignore them but I did

like for example I was walking my friend's dog now when I was in

Serbia and it's like a I think

it's a pit bull dog so but she's she's like yeah she's she's active

she's not scary you know she's not biting or anything like she's not aggressive

uh her name is luna and so i was walking her and

you know i feel like i just didn't have that much authority over her

so she was just like taking

like the lead um and i just thought okay i can't walk for her

everywhere because she's not gonna

listen to me and um and i'm like i hope there's not gonna be

any dog around that's not trained

right because can you control her exactly so what i mean she's gonna defend

herself of course and the dog is just whatever,

I don't know what's in their mind.

So, and one dog actually, tiny dog approached us and it was not on

the leash, but I think it was just like a random stray dog or

someone else's dog.

Who's not really, you know, who's just like letting them run or whatever.

Very common here.

Yeah. Didn't really train them.

So the dog was going after us, you know, and thankfully, I don't know

how, but I think no.

and all at once Luna just moved like turned and she was like and

the dog just left and I'm like oh thank god you're big and scared

you look big and scary you know you're not scary but you look

so yeah really sometimes can be scary you know exactly before we continue with

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our episode so you take the leash with

you when you walk luna always always yeah although i don't really walk my

dog that much

actually but always the leash yeah for the bigger dogs like labradors or german

shepherds of course they are mostly in leash.

Yeah, yeah.

Because they are huge and people, not because they will do something, but people

will be scared of them.

If they see the leash, they are more relieved.

Exactly. I think that, I mean, I personally am not scared by big dogs

because I know that that does not correlate with the aggressiveness.

like I can see when a dog is a bit aggressive and usually they're

aggressive because they feel

threatened not just because they're aggressive it's not like it's not really like a

but but yeah I don't I love big dogs I 12 dogs annoy me

thing

because they're always yelling exactly exactly it's just like it's kind of as if

it's allowed for them to be aggressive and for

bigger dogs oh no way they're aggressive they're going to be put to sleep

you know what I mean It's just like unfair because they have this reputation.

Common breeds.

So what I'm actually curious to see what you have seen.

Yeah, I'm going to share my screen to show you the most common ones

that I see here.

This is going to come later.

This one.

This English bulldog, Minish schnauzer.

that one is so common I see them in hiking I see them in

parks this is number one for me

because of their you know beard I guess I pay attention to them they

I find them very funny

actually so I haven't seen that many of them this is really interesting for

me to see yeah to hear

in Belgrade once I saw a woman walking two or three of them another

one again two of them I was like what is wrong i i often

see them like are they that cute what's happening okay these slow

ones english bulldogs are very common

too and they are no they're so funny they're so funny to me all

of these like like big eyed ones they're just so funny to me i

think i would have one just to laugh every day

because they're yeah when it comes to cuteness this is the funniest this is

the slowest and most common the third one is corgi oh my god this

is very very common and you see them sometimes

abandoned and then they can survive by themselves on the street somehow here i

see so many breed

dogs you know just left out that but small ones uh because of their

you know fur you realize

they need special care and they don't have it on the street by themselves

poor things just survive but they're always in a pack so they protect each

other so this it don't seem lonely

dogs much yeah unfortunately we don't have a good system for like you

know taking care of stray dogs

and so what we usually do we have a lot of like volunteers and

they create like the how do you call it oh my god now i'm

just my mind stopped like a society or something yeah support group

or something like that and then um yeah there's like donations they organize uh

some place where

like you can put these dogs and and then you can keep them people

are more like supporting them a

lot all i see in front of my house there's a park and i

see the kids giving them food the owners of the cafes, restaurants,

pass-food places, everybody kind of supports them.

You know, they're usually around like a burger place

is like Piasca Vica.

Exactly.

Like where they know that they will get food.

Yeah. Vita is also very very common.

I see them in the parks a lot but my favorite is this one

Komondor. I have a couple of them here.